#wikipedia is not reliable

[alasarys]

Okay, I've seen the Williams logo teardown across my dash a couple of times and I just want to say ... this is why Wikipedia is pre-research, not research.

The Williams logo on the Wikipedia page is awful, but also – crucially – it's not the actual Williams logo.

Let's take a look ...

Williams have run a variety of logos over the course of their history. The refresh to the current 'split W' logo occurred in 2014.

Here's Valtteri Bottas in Interlagos on 23 November 2013 (the last race of the year) rocking the previous circular logo ...

... and in Bahrain on 19 February 2014 (day one of winter testing), in front of the pit wall:

Huh. There's a bit of a ripple because it's printed on fabric, but the 'points' at the top and bottom of the W are flat, the arms are in line all the way down, and the spacing of the split looks pretty even to my eye.

The Wikipedia logo, on the other hand, is, uh ... maybe somebody drawing it from memory?

To be even clearer, here's the Williams Racing image from the original post, where it's noted that "[t]he rest of the font is perfectly fine, geometrical shapes."

And on a white background so it's readable, and marked up:

Everything lines up like it should. The tips are flat where they should be flat. The spaces are even.

This logo is fine.

This logo has always been fine.

Wikipedia? Not fine.

[hussyknee]

Wikipedia’s editors have voted to declare the Anti-Defamation League “generally unreliable” on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, adding it to a list of banned and partially banned sources. An overwhelming majority of editors involved in the debate about the ADL also voted to deem the organization unreliable on the topic of antisemitism, its core focus. A formal declaration on that count is expected next. The decision about Israel-related citations, made last week, means that one of the most prominent and longstanding Jewish advocacy groups in the United States — and one historically seen as the leading U.S. authority on antisemitism — is now grouped together with the National Inquirer, Newsmax, and Occupy Democrats as a source of propaganda or misinformation in the eyes of the online encyclopedia. Moreover, in a near consensus, dozens of Wikipedia editors involved in the discussion said they believe the ADL should not be cited for factual information on antisemitism as well because it acts primarily as a pro-Israel organization and tends to label legitimate criticism of Israel as antisemitism.

Imagine pouring millions into Hasbara for decades just to lose the information war this fucking badly lmaooo

Anyway, plugging my masterlist of Palestinian media and sources again:

[youkaigakkou-tl]

New key visual!! 🎉🎉

Premiering on OCTOBER 8TH!! 🎉🎉

For 2 consecutive cours!! (24 eps)

🎉🎉

Full voice cast has also been revealed:

Abe Haruaki: Ryouta Oosaka

Sano Mikoto: Ryouta Suzuki

Maizuka Mamekichi: Reo Tanie

Hijita Koutarou: Taito Ban

Zashiki Beniko: Akari Kitou

Nyuudou Rensuke: Akira Takano

Utagawa Kuniko: Hana Ayasaka

Akisame Tamao: Yuki Sakakihara

Yanagida: Tomokazu Sugita

Mujina Yakumo: Takao Mitsutomi

Fuji Touya: Saku Hyuga

Renjou Yuri: Nanako Mori

Miki Rintarou: Shun Horie

Hatanaka Izuna: Ryouta Iwasaki

Principal: Jun Fukuyama

Takahashi Akira: Shouta Aoi

Yamazaki Makoto: Tomoaki Maeno

Marshmallow: Chitose Morinaga

Little man: Tetsuya Yanagihara

[forsoobado137]

THE IN-UNIVERSE POSTS GIVE ME LIFE AHHHH

Definitely didn't break out into endless fits of laughter when reading them, nope, definitely didn't.

Anyway, what are your thoughts on countries/NPs in the Nations Revealed AU finding out they have their own Wikipedia pages, etc, like in a scenario where they've never known it existed in the first place and they hav just found out and maybe some get together to laugh at the inaccuracy and misinformation (the funny ones) within the articles?

(Not sure if anyone's asked this before, but curiosity killed the cat, hehe)

I feel like some would be kind of shocked like "holy shit I'm famous". Most already know about their fame so they wouldn't be too shocked.

Wikipedia is actually one of the more reliable sources of information about nation people. Nowadays, most articles are heavily researched and regularly updated to accuracy. But in Wikipedia's infancy, things were NOT as well regulated. I imagine there were even some nations becoming editors solely to embellish their articles/trash other articles.

Did you hear about that controversy where the Scots Wikipedia was written by a random American kid using a shitty translator? I imagine something like that has happened where articles about smaller nations were written by people who weren't from there and didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

Idk if every article about an NP is so consistently egregious that they all have a little group call and laugh at them. I feel like those are reserved for compilations of article vandalism, or maybe they laugh at articles from sites like Conservapedia.

Also I'm glad you like my in-universe posts! :D

[fizzyykittyy]

i dont understand how historians call them “friends” when they literally are lovers

[artschoolglasses]

Made a playlist of music from the 1790s and thought I'd share it here, if anyone wanted some background classical music to listen to.

Still adding to it, though...

[crookedlyinnernightmare]

Happy father’s day to Matsuzaki!!

hm? what do you mean he doesn’t have kids...? the entire school is right there?

[adhd-merlin]

reblogging a meme and tagging it with the name of some random knight, then laughing a bit to myself. I have never read an arthurian text in my life

[vexic929]

I am so tired of recommending people switch to something other than Google and them acting like I'm asking them to kill their first born

like I know that switching things over is scary and takes time, I get that, but for the love of god if you value your personal information and the ability to look up REAL facts instead of incorrect AI generated garbage I beg of you to switch to something else like Firefox and Duck Duck Go

Google IS going to fuck you, just not in the way you want, I prommy

[dykesynthezoid]

It’s been one (1) day and I’ve already seen the fact that Kamala Harris’s husband is (((Jewish))) brought up multiple times, so that’s gonna be a fun thing to deal with for the next four months and potentially another 4-8 years after that

[argentconflagration]

word for the way you can instantly recognize a number of objects without having to count them, so long as it's a small number of objects (~4-6 or less). i find this delightful.

[stopthatfool]

stop-that-fool's ICEMAV timeline for Your jeep. Your Teeth. The coffee that you bought me.

AKA where my icemav's story sticks to canon and where it diverges/changes-- all while trying to make it align with real military/historical events.

Also, thank you @sliderkerner for indulging me and saying that you wanted my timeline posted here!

DISCLAIMER! I am in no way an expert of the US Military. This whole 'timeline' should not be taken as fact or canon regarding TOP GUN. I am making this for my own understanding of my icemav story and to help myself and anyone reading keep track of the timeline. This is just for fun and mostly for me.

Quick note about the time off US Military members get. According to this website, people accumulate leave-- 2.5 days per month of work. I don't think that either Mav or Ice are eager to take time off. I can only see them wanting to take time off to visit Carole and Bradley (as Val Kilmer stated, I also believe that Ice does not have the ideal family). That's why a lot of their work seems back-to-back/never ending.

1986-

-The movie stays the same (Goose dies, intense amounts of sexual tension between Ice and Mav, "You can be my wingman anytime" etc., etc.)

-The FIRST change in canon is when Mav states that he's going to try teaching at TOP GUN. In TGM, Mav said he barely lasted one class. Within my story, Mav lasts until 1988.

Between '87 and '88-

-Ice comes to teach at TOP GUN (entirely for the purpose of his career/'resume' for working his way up for promotions etc., etc.)

-While Ice is there (for around 2 TOP GUN classes) that is when Ice and Mav start getting involved romantically.

-But Ice hates teaching. He leaves mid '88 and joins the Iran-Iraq War aboard USS Enterprise.

Late 1988-

-Mav completes one last TOP GUN class after Ice leaves and follows Ice to the USS Enterprise (a happy accident that they were stationed on the same ship). This then allows them to continue their 'involvement' and allow them to fly together again ("Bullshit, you can be mine" blah blah blah).

1990-

-The Gulf War. According to Fandom Wiki both Mav and Ice have the Kuwait Liberation Medal-- meaning they both fought in the Gulf War around this time. (Btw they are no longer on the USS Enterprise as she was no longer involved in the Gulf War past 1989 (I think))

-In my TOP GUN universe, Mav gets another 'kill' during the Gulf War (I have no idea if any naval aviators did this in 1990 (Mav didn't do this canonically) but it happens within the stop-that-fool fanfic universe). Merlin is also Mav's RIO throughout the the Gulf War.

1991-

-BUT Ice has the Kuwait Liberation Medal (Saudi Arabia) while Mav does not. Mav has the Southwest Asia Service Medal. So, for my story this time in between 1991-92 is when Mav pisses someone off and is moved squadrons/carriers to somewhere in Southwest Asia.

-Both of them, according to these medals, participated in Operation Desert Storm. (Mav also could have participated in Operation Desert Shield due to his Southwest Asia Service Medal.)

-Throughout 1991 they are able to see each other a couple times, but the fact that Mav keeps pissing people off makes it difficult. This is also because Navy deployments on average last between 6-7 months (according to a quick Google search) and for the sake of the story, their deployments and time off in between rarely overlap.

1992-

-This difficulty continues into 1992 where it all comes to a head on Dec. 31st 1992 (Ice's birthday! (Ice does not have a 'canon' birthday, but Dec. 31st is Val Kilmer's and I thought that bday also made sense for Ice)). Que the car scene in ch.4 and the aftermath the next morning.

-Throughout '92, Mav was in Iraq participating in the Iraqi no-fly zones. (I think. I find this UN mandate difficult to understand, especially whether or not the US Navy was involved or not.)

1993-

-Mav and Ice do not see each other in person at all in '93. But as said in ch.4 they-- "...talk about nothing on the phone. Ice never picks him up from the airport again."

-The US Navy also provided air cover for cargo planes that were bringing relief supplies during the Bosnian War. This is where Mav was placed in '93 (pissed off some captain or higher up or something).

-Ice and Mav don't see each other (in person) until '94.

The UNITED NATIONS MEDAL- In the TOP GUN fandom wiki page, both Ice and Mav are listed to have a United Nations Medal. What it does not state, and what I cannot find anywhere online, is what conflict they were a part specifically of for them to receive this medal. There are multiple options throughout the 1990's and 2000's that could have led to this award. BUT for the sake of my story, I will only be considering/applying conflicts that took place between 1994-98.

Between 1994 and '96-

-I think Ice received the UNPROFOR United Nations Medal for his service during the Yugoslav Wars. This is where he was between 1994-95. As I stated in ch.3 he was stationed somewhere in Europe after he and Mav 'break up' (I can't figure out what United Nations Medal Mav could have received-- it's difficult to figure out US Navy specific peacekeeping missions he could been involved in besides UNPROFOR.))

1997-

-It's around this year that Mav uses some of his accumulated vacation days to spend a longer period with Carole and Bradley. Ice is still stationed in Europe (workaholic).

1998-

-After Mav's time off, he's deployed again to Iraq.

As I mentioned in a previous post, not a lot of things happen in early to mid 1998 in regards to military conflicts, BUT Operation Desert Fox happens in December of 1998. I think the military would need to have people around before the operation before completing something of that scale. AKA that's why Mav is there in June.

-Then on an undisclosed date in early June, Mav crashes as stated in ch.1 (“You dodged some crazy bastards up there, then hit a bird. The plane crashed into the ground, and you ejected and landed on some rocks...").

-Mav is transferred to a hospital in California as he needs special surgery for his shattered knee cap.

-Ice has been in California for a couple days when Mav gets there because his paternal grandfather is dying (another happy accident that his grandfather is in the same hospital as Mav (god i love plot armour)). Ice had previously been permanently stationed somewhere in Europe (to get away from his family, Mav, and to work up to a promotion).

-Carole dies a couple days after Mav is released from the hospital. Bradley is now under Mav's legal guardianship. They move into military provided family housing on the Lemoore Naval Air Station with Mav teaching at the SFWSPAC (Strike Fighter Weapons School Pacific) once his injuries heal.

-Ice then reveals that he has requested to be stationed in California with Mav (the request was approved, Ice is now near both his family AND Mav... he's so silly).

-On June 21st 1998, Mav, Ice and Bradley drive out to West California to the beach cottage Mav rented (courtesy of Viper) with the plans of celebrating Bradley's birthday on June 27th (finally someone with a canon bday thank u Bradley).

Anyway, that's all we got so far! I would just like to say again that I am in no way claiming that this is accurate or canon. I also can't guarantee that I understand all of the wars, conflicts, operations, and details of the US military that I stated previously. So if I got something wrong; any of the language I used, details of the wars and conflicts stated, I apologize! Very deeply. From the depths of my soul.

[piratesexmachine420]

...panthers?

[teen-spirited-away]

So the Hightower's house color isn't even green in the books...🤡 then why are they the "greens" in f&b? I thought the flame on their sigil was green but apparently its not? Is that just a change in the show?

[dw-flagler]

actually the story of the Azuma is really interesting for the sheer amount of anachronisms it is subjected to.

So the confederacy tried to buy a ship from the french government so they could do privateering raids on american shipping (like classic piracy).

The confederate representative spoke directly to Napoleon III of France (The real napoleon's idiot nephew), because it was illegal to sell weapons to the confederacy under french law and they figured it would be easier for the emperor to circumvent french law than anybody else, which was true.

The ship was constructed under the false name of Sphynx, to encourage rumors it was intended to be sold to Egypt (A protectorate of the ottoman empire, successor state to the roman empire (or at least that's what they said)).

However it was eventually caught as an intended sale to the confederacy, so the sale was cancelled and it was instead sold to Denmark under the name Stærkodder, as a combatant in the Second Schleswig War (Otto Von Bismarck's efforts to unite Germany). Before it could be used for doing war things with, Denmark lost.

After Denmark lost, they sold Stærkodder to the Confederacy in early 1865, who renamed it to the CSS Stonewall. Before it could be actually used for doing war things with, The Confederacy lost. It was then sold to Cuba (which was still a Spanish colony!), and then again to the US. Here's a photograph of it around this time.

At this point the Tokugawa Shogunate purchased the Stonewall, seeking to reinforce their navy. They renamed it Kotetsu (Ironclad). And buddy. You're not gonna believe what happens next. Before the Tokugawa government could use it, the Boshin War started, and. Shockingly. The Tokugawa Shogunate lost the war.

Instead, it was sold to the Shogunate's opponent in the Boshin War, The Meiji Government (who gave it its final name, Azuma), where it was used in the battle of Hakodate to defeat the remnants of the shogunate navy. Here's a sketch of it during this battle.

So the ship was sold by a Napoleon to the Danish fighting Otto Von Bismarck, who then sold it to the Confederacy in the american civil war, who then ended up selling it to the Tokugawa Shogunate in the japanese civil war! This one ship was used by danish monarchists, american cowboys, and japanese samurai, all within 5 years!

[wingedcatgirl]

Are you familiar with Robo's theme from Chrono Trigger?

🎶